Food Safety

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Permalink Reply by John Antonelli on July 10, 2009 at 8:08pm

Yummy mold!!!!

Christopher said:

mold on cheese actually can still be eaten! Just cut off the moldy part and one inch around it for hard cheeses and 2 inches for soft and the rest is still good, sometimes even better.

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Permalink Reply by Jeanne on July 11, 2009 at 6:03pm

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by John Antonelli on July 11, 2009 at 10:39pm

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by Barbara hampton-Barclay on July 14, 2009 at 3:04pm

John Antonelli said:

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by Barbara hampton-Barclay on July 14, 2009 at 3:12pm

Why should people in a country with as high a standard of living as the US have to choose? Once again the greed of the wealthy conglomerates exploits the poor and then blames them for being overweight and unhealthy. The schools and other public organizations support them by offerring the swill that they serve to those who "must" take advantage of public assistance ( schools, food stamps) Home economics needs to be taught again about how not to poison your family. The value of exercise and not the WII...the importance of reading and the arts...all of these enhance human beings so that they can better contribute to a society and not just make money for the already and "wannabee" wealthy.
We need to look at our values and reevaluate. A democratic America with an unhealthy and no health benefits lower and middle class won't last long in a global society.

Barbara hampton-Barclay said:

John Antonelli said:

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by Barbara hampton-Barclay on July 14, 2009 at 3:20pm

I want the government to regulate food and i want to know what legislation is being passed so that I and others like me can vote to not give big grants to Monsanto to engineer our food. For years the farmers were subsidized by the gov't and here is where the karma comes in. Farmers who agreed not to grow this and that to create scarcity and drive up prices are now experiencing the repercussions by being owned by large food conglomerates who force them to produce in ways that "fertilize " corporate coffers. But Americans somehow feel that they should not have to pay a lot for food. So chips and salza make a good meal with a lot of Coca Cola thrown in to wash them down.
I want the government to be responsible to me and my values and give me other options when the majority does not agree with me. But in the meantime, movies like "Food" and conversations about the food industry will hwelp educate some of us to share that knowlege with most of us.

Barbara hampton-Barclay said:

Why should people in a country with as high a standard of living as the US have to choose? Once again the greed of the wealthy conglomerates exploits the poor and then blames them for being overweight and unhealthy. The schools and other public organizations support them by offerring the swill that they serve to those who "must" take advantage of public assistance ( schools, food stamps) Home economics needs to be taught again about how not to poison your family. The value of exercise and not the WII...the importance of reading and the arts...all of these enhance human beings so that they can better contribute to a society and not just make money for the already and "wannabee" wealthy.
We need to look at our values and reevaluate. A democratic America with an unhealthy and no health benefits lower and middle class won't last long in a global society.

Barbara hampton-Barclay said:

John Antonelli said:

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by John Antonelli on July 14, 2009 at 3:32pm

Because money is not distributed evenly, and so be that. I certainly do not want to subsidize someone elses diet with my food budget. The other part of this is that so called crap food is what a lot of folks want to eat. Its chep and it tastes good.


Barbara hampton-Barclay said:

Why should people in a country with as high a standard of living as the US have to choose? Once again the greed of the wealthy conglomerates exploits the poor and then blames them for being overweight and unhealthy. The schools and other public organizations support them by offerring the swill that they serve to those who "must" take advantage of public assistance ( schools, food stamps) Home economics needs to be taught again about how not to poison your family. The value of exercise and not the WII...the importance of reading and the arts...all of these enhance human beings so that they can better contribute to a society and not just make money for the already and "wannabee" wealthy.
We need to look at our values and reevaluate. A democratic America with an unhealthy and no health benefits lower and middle class won't last long in a global society.

Barbara hampton-Barclay said:

John Antonelli said:

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by Elisabeth Hartline on July 14, 2009 at 5:00pm

I'm afraid that I don't agreed that poor food is better than no food. Too often this an excuse for buying and consuming convenient food. Good food is not out of range for the poor, or the frugal. There are social groups growing up all over the United States whose priority it is to find and promote real food. Many of us could start by refusing to spend our food dollars at gas stations and fast-food restaurants.

John Antonelli said:

Well if you are poor and hungry, poor food is better than no food.
Jeanne said:

Agreed. And supporting local farmers helps us all. If only our land use policy gave more value to farming, and less value to "development" we would have more access to this.

Has anyone else noticed the presence of Monsanto as a sponsor on NPR lately, touting their record for "sustainable" food? I am sure this is in response to the movie, Food, Inc. which attacks factory farming, and the overproduction of poor quality food, much of it thanks to the efforts of companies like Monsanto. I find it ironic that more people are going to hear the "we make food cheap and accessible" message from this corporation than will ever see the movie they are so defensive towards. Some smart marketing folk there, no doubt.


Christopher said:

I trust my local farmers, whom I buy from every saturday at the farmers' market. I can talk to them about how they farm, what seeds they use (heritage etc). That is all the regulation I need--at least for vegetables!
The organic industry definitely needs to have tighter control. The larger businesses edging into the organic market do not really hold up the ideals of organic: local, sustainable, genetic diversity, no pesticides, chemicals, humane practices. Thanks to government "regulations" these ideals are being sacrificed for the almighty buck. We are not as bad as the EU though which just repealed their long ban on tomatoes that were ugly and knobby cucumbers! People will definitely sacrifice taste for looks when it comes to vegetables!

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Permalink Reply by Christopher on July 14, 2009 at 6:29pm

The problem also exists that poor families cannot get to healthy foods like vegetables and fruits. Grocery stores are rare in poor neighborhoods, so people have to go to convenient stores like 7-11 and CVS and fast food places for food. If we made markets that sold healthy, fresh produce available in poorer areas, obesity and health problems would most likely decrease. However, as John said even if produce did become available, people still may go to fast food places and gas stations because they like the food there. If you give most people the option between a head of broccoli, costing lets say $3.00 (based on my most recent trip to the farmer's market), and a full KFC meal including biscuits, mashed potatoes, and other calorie packed foods (deep fried of course) for just $2 dollars more, most people would go with the later unfortunately.

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